@blair I think that's a false dichotomy. Apple has many reasons to regulate their store, most having nothing to do with security.
Did you know you can't publish games that have "politics" in Apple's store, with "politics" meaning whatever is convenient at the moment for Apple?
@jaranta It's not a false dichotomy. The WHOLE point is one of safety and security. Google refuses to review apps and try to exert even minimal oversight -- they will remove things, but not prevent viruses and trojans.
The only reason we have app stores today, and widespread use of apps on phones, is because Apple was autocratic in what could be published. Did you use a Treo before that? "I want to install this app, but if I do, my phone may stop working reliably!"
@jaranta And, I'm very aware of the limitations of the app store, having been subjected to them myself.
- My (small consulting company) I had an app removed after a Canadian company claimed -- falsely -- that we were using their trademark).
- My students built and wanted to publish a game teaching middle schoolers about safe sex and proper condom use. No chance that could get published.
- Our AR web browser (Argon) is rate 17+ because it let's you visit the web
- etc etc
@jaranta I fully understand the desires and frustrations of companies writing iOS apps. And I am not a fan of some of Apple's policies. I think they are too capricious at times, and take too big a slice in many cases.
But, without their dictatorial control, the environment wouldn't exist to complain about.
(I would never use Android for these and other -- Google -- reasons.)
@jaranta (oh, and to be fair, I acknowledge that "completely refuses" is an overstatement, a more accurate one might be "does minimal review that is easily circumvented")
@blair I still think you're conflating two things here: a guarantee that a program is safe to run on your device without it breaking down or the program stealing your data and editorial oversight on what that program contains. Apple exercises both, while I think you could have one without the other. It's convenient for Apple to use one to justify the other, but that doesn't mean it necessarily follows.
@jaranta I hear what you're saying. They aren't coupled, in theory. In practice, Apple gets to make the rules for their store. I guess I'm not clear: I'm willing to tradeoff restrictions on types of content for safety. I might draw the line differently, but I see the need for a line.
@blair I think we might agree on the need for a line, but disagree where it goes. I'm not very persuaded by "their store, their rules" when it is, in fact, my phone and they intentionally stop me from using anything but their store.
@jaranta we’ll just have to disagree. ;)